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PIONEER 17' CANOE
 

What the Perfect Canoe would Should Look Like

FROM '' CANOE & KAYAK MAGAZINE '', DECEMBER 1995

17' Pioneer canoe - almost perfect canoeIt doesn't exist, (or does it ?) of course, since every design tends to be a compromise. But if forced to describe such a miracle craft, the all purpose canoe might look like this: it is 17 feet long (17' 0") , 35 inches wide (36"), 14 inches deep (14 1/2") and the stem is slightly recurved slightly raked resulting in a depth at each end of 20 inches (21"). There is a bit of tumblehome (1" each side), meaning the widest point of the canoe is below the gunwale line, giving the canoe better final stability and an easier reach for paddling. The bottom shape is a rounded vee (shallow rounded vee). There is about four inches of rocker (3"), that is the keel line rises up towards the ends just enough to make turning easier, but with a full load the canoe will sit down in the water and paddle straight without an inordinate number of correcting strokes. The canoe will weigh less than 75 pounds (69 lbs. fiberglass - 50 lbs. in kevlar) and there was never a canoe that weighed too little.

**Bolded text indicated specifications for the 17' Pioneer Canoe and are offered for comparison purposes when looking up the "perfect canoe".

IF YOU FIND YOURSELF CONSIDERING, OR IF YOUR RETAIL SALESPERSON IS TRYING TO SELL YOU A CANOE WHICH DEPARTS DRAMATICALLY ---- SAY 10% --- FROM THE ABOVE DIMENSIONS, BE SURE THAT YOU OR YOUR SALESPERSON CAN RATIONALIZE SUCH DEPARTURES FROM THE NORM ON THE BASIS OF A SPECIALIZED USE WHICH YOU HAVE IN MIND.

LENGTH 17’ - 0’’
WIDTH at gunwale inside 36"
WIDTH at gunwale outside 37’’
WIDTH at 4’’ waterline 34’’
DEPTH - bow/center/stern 21’’ / 14.5’’ / 21’’
HULL CONFIGURATION
          KEEL LINE STRAIGHT WITH RISE AT ENDS  --  NO KEEL
          SYMMETRY SYMMETRICAL
          MID SECTION ROUNDED VEE
          BOW/STERN VEE SHAPE / RAKED 
          ABOVE WATERLINE TUMBLEHOME
          ROCKER MODERATE  3’’
SEATS
MAXIMUM PADDLERS 2 ADULTS
INITIAL STABILITY EXCELLENT
SECONDARY STABILITY GOOD
SPEED FAST
MANEUVERABILITY EXCELLENT
TRACKING GOOD
SEA WORTHINESS GOOD
MATERIALS FIBERGLASS --PROPRIETARY LAY-UP  --  HANDLAID  CLOTH / FOAM CORE
WEIGHT [approx] 69 lbs
CAPACITY [approx] 1150 lbs
USAGE TOURING, CASUAL RECREATION, WILDERNESS TRIPPING, SPORTSMAN, PADDLES WELL SOLO
COLOURS BONE, SAND, GREEN, RED, YELLOW, BLUE - OPTIONAL DEAD GRASS OR CAMO
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17' Pioneer canoe from front

FROM CANOE AND KAYAK MAGAZINE "CANOES FOR CRUISIN' "
JULY 2000 A REVIEW OF OUR 17' PIONEER BY STEVE SALINS

The Pioneer 17' took time to earn it's points with me. The pleasant cream-colored gel coat makes a nice initial impression, and some finishing touches suggest thought and care in construction. I'm a sucker for laced wood frame seats, and the ones hanging by wood spacers in this canoe throw me back to an earlier era and prove to be very comfortable. Handles are curved and slender in the middle, which is easy on the hands. End caps are molded tightly over the stem of the hull as well as the gunwales. The resulting unusual shape catches the eye, it makes for a fine fit.

This hull is stiffened with a thin diamond-shaped foam core; however at 78 pounds [*1] this particular test boat, which was actually built heavy for a rental outfit, feels heavy to load on my van. For some reason, North Woods installs the yoke facing the stern.[*2] Out of superstition I always load my canoes bow forward on a vehicle, so this throws me for a loop. The yoke is highly polished, but without much depth in the cut-out. [*3] It slides off my shoulders too readily for comfort in carrying, and it never does feel quite right.

We paddle the Pioneer 17' on a small lake adjacent to a county park. With the first stroke, this canoe shows stability and smoothness in the water way beyond my expectations. I'm always hesitant to say that a designs well blended because I wonder if I'm overlooking something. Yet the Pioneer 17' cruises nicely, tracks well, turns easily and never feels unstable or particularly tippy. We lean the gunwale to water's edge with plenty of confidence and comfort. Paddling with straight-shaft paddles, we run a leisurely course around the windy lake without any argument from the hull. With bent-shaft paddles a higher cadence, and more speed, the Pioneer 17' moves along right smartly.

This is one large canoe and would be plenty suitable to carry a load on an extended trip. The manufacturer reports a six-inch freeboard capacity of 1,150 ponds, which indicates a lot of volume for this length. The capacity is partly due to the deep 14.5 inch center depth. The boat is quite comfortable. Seats are low enough that paddlers can lock their knees under the gunwales, yet high enough for comfortable kneeling. Personally, I think the front seat is mounted to far back.[*4] There is a huge amount of leg and storage room in the bow, and bow paddlers notice a quite wide paddling position. I'd reduce both the room and the paddling width by moving the bow seat forward. The stern position is comfortable for both body and paddling efficiency.

The Pioneer 17' proves itself to be a wonderful tandem canoe for general recreational use. It's not a hot cruiser, but it does so much else well in an understated manner that it's hard not to like it.

A FEW NOTES FROM NORTH WOODS CANOE COMPANY LTD.
ABOUT THE REVIEW:

[*1] WE USED A STANDARD PRODUCTION RUN CANOE AND DID NO SPECIAL PREPARATION TO THE CANOE, FOR THE REVIEW BY CANOE AND KAYAK MAGAZINE, LIKE MOST MANUFACTURERS DO. THE STANDARD WEIGHT OF THE 17' PIONEER IS 69 POUNDS.

[*2] THE YOKE IS POSITIONED TO FACE THE STERN SO THE FRONT SEAT DOES NOT RESTRICT YOUR VISION WHEN YOU ARE CARRYING THE CANOE.

[*3] A VARIETY OF OPTIONAL DEEP DISHED YOKES ARE AVAILABLE.

[*4] THE FRONT SEAT CAN BE POSITIONED TO SUIT YOUR PARTICULAR NEEDS AND WE ALSO HAVE AN OPTIONAL SLIDING BOW SEAT AVAILABLE.

NORTH WOODS CANOE COMPANY LTD. WOULD LIKE TO THANK STEVE SALINS, HIS CREW AND CANOE & KAYAK MAGAZINE http://www.canoekayak.com FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DO THIS REVIEW.


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